Exoplanet Insights: Trappist 1d's Atmosphere, Lunar Simulators, and Black Hole Awakening
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Exoplanet Insights: Trappist 1d's Atmosphere, Lunar Simulators, and Black Hole Awakening

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  • New Insights on Trappist 1d: Join us as we explore the latest findings regarding the exoplanet Trappist 1d, which, despite its Earth-like size and rocky surface, has been ruled out as a potential twin due to the absence of a suitable atmosphere. Discover what this means for the search for life beyond our solar system and the implications of red dwarf stars on planetary atmospheres.
  • - Colorado's Lunar Surface Simulator: Travel closer to home as we discuss an innovative lunar surface simulator built at the Colorado School of Mines. This impressive facility is testing lunar rovers and excavation equipment, providing vital data for future Moon missions and commercial activities.
  • - Controversial Executive Order on Rocket Launches: Delve into the recent executive order signed by President Trump aimed at streamlining regulations for commercial rocket launches. We examine the balance between fostering innovation and ensuring environmental safeguards, as well as the mixed reactions from industry leaders and environmental advocates.
  • - Supermassive Black Hole Awakens: Marvel at the discovery of a supermassive black hole located 6 billion light years away, caught in the act of awakening. This unprecedented observation offers insights into the early stages of black hole activity and its influence on galaxy formation, providing a unique opportunity to study these cosmic giants.
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  • Thank you for tuning in. This is Ena and Avery signing off. Until next time, keep looking up and stay curious about the wonders of our universe.
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Trappist 1d Study
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Lunar Surface Simulator Information
[Colorado School of Mines](https://www.mines.edu/)
Executive Order Details
[Federal Aviation Administration](https://www.faa.gov/)
Black Hole Discovery
[University of Bologna](https://www.unibo.it/en)
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 Anna: Welcome back to Astronomy Daily, your daily

00:00:03 --> 00:00:06 dive into the cosmos. I'm Ena.

00:00:06 --> 00:00:09 Avery: And I'm Avery. We're so glad you could join us today for another

00:00:09 --> 00:00:11 fascinating journey through the latest in space and

00:00:11 --> 00:00:12 astronomy news.

00:00:13 --> 00:00:15 Anna: Today, uh, we're going to travel light years away to

00:00:15 --> 00:00:18 discuss new findings about a distant

00:00:18 --> 00:00:20 exoplanet that's not quite Earth's

00:00:20 --> 00:00:21 twin.

00:00:21 --> 00:00:24 Avery: Then we'll shift gears and get down to Earth,

00:00:24 --> 00:00:27 specifically to Colorado, where a new lunar

00:00:27 --> 00:00:30 surface simulator is putting Moon machinery to the test.

00:00:30 --> 00:00:33 Anna: And for those interested in the policy side of space,

00:00:33 --> 00:00:36 we'll be looking at a controversial executive order

00:00:36 --> 00:00:39 aiming to cut red tape for commercial

00:00:39 --> 00:00:40 rocket launches.

00:00:40 --> 00:00:43 Avery: Finally, we'll marvel at a cosmic M giant caught

00:00:43 --> 00:00:46 in the act of waking up billions of light years

00:00:46 --> 00:00:49 away, giving us unprecedented insight into black

00:00:49 --> 00:00:50 holes.

00:00:50 --> 00:00:53 Anna: Kicking off our news, let's talk about

00:00:53 --> 00:00:56 exoplanets. Specifically one that has

00:00:56 --> 00:00:59 long captivated astronomers. Surviving, searching for life

00:00:59 --> 00:01:00 beyond our solar system.

00:01:01 --> 00:01:03 Trappist1d this

00:01:03 --> 00:01:06 planet is incredibly intriguing because

00:01:06 --> 00:01:09 it's similar in size to Earth, it's

00:01:09 --> 00:01:12 rocky, and it resides in an area around

00:01:12 --> 00:01:14 its star where liquid water on its surface

00:01:14 --> 00:01:16 is theoretically possible.

00:01:17 --> 00:01:19 Avery: That sounds incredibly promising, like a real contender

00:01:19 --> 00:01:22 for another habitable world. What's the latest?

00:01:22 --> 00:01:25 Anna: Well, Avery, a new study using data from

00:01:25 --> 00:01:28 the NASA ESA CSA James Webb,

00:01:28 --> 00:01:31 Space Telescop, has unfortunately

00:01:31 --> 00:01:34 delivered some sobering news. Despite

00:01:34 --> 00:01:36 all Those promising characteristics,

00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 Trappist1d does not have an Earth like

00:01:39 --> 00:01:40 atmosphere.

00:01:40 --> 00:01:43 Avery: Oh, that's a bit of a letdown. An atmosphere

00:01:43 --> 00:01:45 is pretty crucial for habitability, isn't it?

00:01:46 --> 00:01:48 Anna: Absolutely. A protective atmosphere

00:01:48 --> 00:01:51 along with a friendly star and liquid water

00:01:52 --> 00:01:53 is what makes Earth so special.

00:01:54 --> 00:01:57 Astronomers are really on a mission with Webb to

00:01:57 --> 00:01:59 determine just how unique our home planet is.

00:02:00 --> 00:02:03 Caroline Pialet Goryeb, the lead author of the study,

00:02:03 --> 00:02:06 put it clearly stating that while Webb is

00:02:06 --> 00:02:09 allowing them to explore this question for Earth sized

00:02:09 --> 00:02:12 planets for the first time, they can now rule

00:02:12 --> 00:02:15 out Trappist1d from a list of potential Earth

00:02:15 --> 00:02:16 twins or cousins.

00:02:16 --> 00:02:19 Avery: So what exactly did Webb's instruments find,

00:02:19 --> 00:02:21 or rather not find?

00:02:21 --> 00:02:24 Anna: Webb's near infrared Spectroscope or near

00:02:24 --> 00:02:26 spec instrument did not detect

00:02:26 --> 00:02:29 molecules common in Earth's atmosphere like

00:02:29 --> 00:02:31 water, methane or carbon. D.

00:02:32 --> 00:02:35 Pialit Goryeb outlined a few possibilities

00:02:35 --> 00:02:38 for Trappist1d. It could have an

00:02:38 --> 00:02:41 extremely thin atmosphere similar to Mars,

00:02:41 --> 00:02:44 or perhaps very thick high altitude

00:02:44 --> 00:02:47 clouds like Venus that are blocking their detection

00:02:47 --> 00:02:49 of specific atmospheric signatures.

00:02:49 --> 00:02:52 Or it could simply be a, uh, barren rock with

00:02:52 --> 00:02:53 no atmosphere at all.

00:02:53 --> 00:02:56 Avery: That's quite a range of possibilities from Mars like

00:02:56 --> 00:02:59 to Venus like or even completely

00:02:59 --> 00:02:59 barren.

00:03:00 --> 00:03:02 Anna: Indeed. And it highlights some of the

00:03:02 --> 00:03:05 inherent challenges of planets orbiting red

00:03:05 --> 00:03:08 dwarf stars like Trappist 1.

00:03:08 --> 00:03:11 This star, while dim and relatively cold,

00:03:11 --> 00:03:14 is known to be quite volatile. It often

00:03:14 --> 00:03:17 releases flares of high energy radiation,

00:03:17 --> 00:03:19 which have the potential to strip, uh, away the

00:03:19 --> 00:03:22 atmospheres of its small planets, especially

00:03:22 --> 00:03:24 those orbiting closest.

00:03:24 --> 00:03:27 Avery: Right. So even if a planet starts with an

00:03:27 --> 00:03:30 atmosphere, these stellar flares could just blast it

00:03:30 --> 00:03:33 away over time. But why are scientists still so

00:03:33 --> 00:03:35 motivated to look for atmospheres around these specific

00:03:35 --> 00:03:36 planets?

00:03:36 --> 00:03:39 Anna: Because red dwarf stars are the most common

00:03:39 --> 00:03:42 stars in our galaxy. If planets can

00:03:42 --> 00:03:45 hold onto an atmosphere in such a harsh environment

00:03:45 --> 00:03:48 under waves of intense stellar radiation,

00:03:48 --> 00:03:51 it really changes our understanding of where

00:03:51 --> 00:03:53 life might be possible. And Bjorn Benike,

00:03:53 --> 00:03:56 a co author of the study, mentioned that Webb's

00:03:56 --> 00:03:59 sensitive infrared instruments are allowing them to

00:03:59 --> 00:04:02 delve into the atmospheres of these smaller, colder

00:04:02 --> 00:04:05 planets for the first time. They're just starting to

00:04:05 --> 00:04:07 define the line between planets that can hold onto an

00:04:07 --> 00:04:09 atmosphere and those that can't.

00:04:10 --> 00:04:13 Avery: So is all hope lost for the Trappist 1 system

00:04:13 --> 00:04:16 as a whole? Are there any other planets in that

00:04:16 --> 00:04:18 system that might still be candidates for an atmosphere?

00:04:19 --> 00:04:21 Anna: Not at all. In fact, Webb observations of

00:04:21 --> 00:04:24 the outer Trappist 1 planets are still ongoing.

00:04:25 --> 00:04:27 Planets E, F, G, and H

00:04:28 --> 00:04:30 are further away from the energetic eruptions of

00:04:30 --> 00:04:33 their host star, which means they might have a

00:04:33 --> 00:04:35 better chance of retaining their atmospheres.

00:04:36 --> 00:04:39 Avery: That's encouraging. So there's still a chance for the

00:04:39 --> 00:04:41 Trappist 1 system to host worlds with significant

00:04:41 --> 00:04:44 atmospheres, even if Trappist 1D isn't one

00:04:44 --> 00:04:45 of them.

00:04:45 --> 00:04:48 Anna: Um, exactly. As Pilat Gaheleb

00:04:48 --> 00:04:51 said, all hope is not lost for atmospheres around

00:04:51 --> 00:04:53 the Trappist 1 planets. While they didn't

00:04:53 --> 00:04:56 find a strong atmospheric signature at Planet

00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 D, there's still potential for the outer planets

00:04:59 --> 00:05:02 to hold onto a lot of water and other atmospheric

00:05:02 --> 00:05:05 components. Ryan McDonald, another co

00:05:05 --> 00:05:08 author, emphasised that their detective work

00:05:08 --> 00:05:10 is just beginning, and this research

00:05:10 --> 00:05:13 reinforces how truly special Earth

00:05:13 --> 00:05:14 is in the cosmos.

00:05:15 --> 00:05:17 Avery: Speaking of special places and innovative research,

00:05:18 --> 00:05:21 let's pivot from distant exoplanets to something

00:05:21 --> 00:05:24 a little closer to home, but still very much out

00:05:24 --> 00:05:26 of this world, the Moon. There's an

00:05:26 --> 00:05:29 impressive new facility in Colorado that's literally

00:05:29 --> 00:05:31 bringing the lunar surface down to Earth.

00:05:31 --> 00:05:34 Anna: That's right, Avery. The Colorado School of Mines

00:05:34 --> 00:05:37 has built a massive simulated moonscape,

00:05:37 --> 00:05:40 and it's being put to work testing lunar rovers,

00:05:41 --> 00:05:43 evaluating lunar landing and launch pads,

00:05:43 --> 00:05:46 excavation gear, and all sorts of other hardware

00:05:46 --> 00:05:49 for future Moon missions. It's all about getting

00:05:49 --> 00:05:52 a practical understanding of how to work

00:05:52 --> 00:05:54 effectively with robotic spacecraft on the

00:05:54 --> 00:05:55 lunar surface.

00:05:55 --> 00:05:58 Avery: A simulated moonscape. That sounds

00:05:58 --> 00:06:00 fascinating. How large is the facility?

00:06:01 --> 00:06:03 Anna: It's quite substantial. Ian Jean, an

00:06:03 --> 00:06:06 adjunct professor and structural engineer at the school,

00:06:07 --> 00:06:09 confirmed that the MINES lunar surface simulator

00:06:09 --> 00:06:12 is up and running and being used almost daily.

00:06:12 --> 00:06:15 They filled it with over 110

00:06:15 --> 00:06:18 tonnes, or 100 metric tonnes, of

00:06:18 --> 00:06:21 lunar regolith simulant. Imagine

00:06:21 --> 00:06:23 having that much simulated moon dust.

00:06:23 --> 00:06:26 Avery: Wow, that's a lot of simulant. What kind

00:06:26 --> 00:06:28 of projects are they running there?

00:06:28 --> 00:06:31 Anna: Currently, one of the key projects underway is

00:06:31 --> 00:06:33 called aspect, which stands for Autonomous

00:06:33 --> 00:06:36 Site Preparation and Excavation

00:06:36 --> 00:06:38 Compaction and Testing. It's part of

00:06:38 --> 00:06:41 NASA's Lunar Surface Technology research programme,

00:06:41 --> 00:06:44 aiming to demonstrate automated lunar site

00:06:44 --> 00:06:47 preparation. The ASPECT rover is fully

00:06:47 --> 00:06:50 autonomous and equipped for regolith excavation,

00:06:50 --> 00:06:52 moving boulders and surface compaction.

00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 Avery: That's crucial for future lunar bases and sustained

00:06:56 --> 00:06:58 presence on the moon. Building such a unique

00:06:58 --> 00:07:01 facility must have presented a lot of challenges.

00:07:01 --> 00:07:04 Anna: Absolutely. Chris Dreyer, director of

00:07:04 --> 00:07:07 engineering at the Colorado School of Mine's Centre for

00:07:07 --> 00:07:09 Space Resources, highlighted several.

00:07:09 --> 00:07:12 Beyond sourcing such a large quantity of

00:07:12 --> 00:07:14 high quality lunar regolith simulant,

00:07:14 --> 00:07:17 affordably the structure itself needed to be

00:07:17 --> 00:07:20 dust tight and, um, waterproof. They even built a

00:07:20 --> 00:07:23 gantry system inside to track rover movements.

00:07:24 --> 00:07:26 And an assistant, professor, Frankie Zhu,

00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 developed a motion capture system to model rover

00:07:29 --> 00:07:30 mobility.

00:07:30 --> 00:07:33 Avery: So it's not just a big sandbox, it's a

00:07:33 --> 00:07:35 meticulously engineered testing environment.

00:07:36 --> 00:07:39 Anna: Exactly. Dreier noted that the entire

00:07:39 --> 00:07:41 process, from planning to construction, took

00:07:41 --> 00:07:44 over a year. And he now understands why there

00:07:44 --> 00:07:47 are so few equivalent testbeds globally.

00:07:47 --> 00:07:50 It's a testament to the complexity and dedication

00:07:50 --> 00:07:53 involved. But it's also open for innovation.

00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 Attracting external partners, that's really smart.

00:07:56 --> 00:07:59 Avery: Creating a resource for the broader commercial space industry.

00:08:00 --> 00:08:01 Are companies already using it?

00:08:01 --> 00:08:04 Anna: Yes, indeed. A Colorado based company is

00:08:04 --> 00:08:07 building robotic infrastructure, including a rover

00:08:07 --> 00:08:10 called Eagle, with the goal of opening the moon

00:08:10 --> 00:08:12 for further exploration and commercial activity.

00:08:13 --> 00:08:16 Interlune, a Seattle based startup focused on

00:08:16 --> 00:08:18 commercialising space resources like

00:08:18 --> 00:08:21 harvesting helium 3 from the moon, is also

00:08:21 --> 00:08:23 interested. And Neurospace

00:08:24 --> 00:08:27 from Berlin recently evaluated its

00:08:27 --> 00:08:29 modular rover platform, the Hiver, at the

00:08:29 --> 00:08:30 facility.

00:08:30 --> 00:08:33 Avery: So this isn't just about NASA or government missions.

00:08:33 --> 00:08:35 It's a hub for private companies looking.

00:08:35 --> 00:08:38 Anna: To make their mark on the moon too precisely.

00:08:38 --> 00:08:41 Irene Salvanathan, CEO of

00:08:41 --> 00:08:43 Neurospace, mentioned they're identifying

00:08:43 --> 00:08:46 the minimum technology needed to build

00:08:46 --> 00:08:48 inexpensive, affordable and

00:08:48 --> 00:08:51 scalable rovers. The Hive R, for

00:08:51 --> 00:08:54 example, is modular, flexible and can

00:08:54 --> 00:08:57 even repair itself. Dreyer

00:08:57 --> 00:08:59 reiterated that they're always looking for opportunities

00:08:59 --> 00:09:02 to support technology development from

00:09:02 --> 00:09:04 startups, established aerospace companies

00:09:04 --> 00:09:07 and academia. He sees vast

00:09:07 --> 00:09:10 opportunities for the testbed in lunar

00:09:10 --> 00:09:13 excavation, construction, mobility

00:09:13 --> 00:09:15 sensing and dust mitigation.

00:09:16 --> 00:09:18 Avery: This simulator truly sounds like a cornerstone for

00:09:18 --> 00:09:21 future lunar exploration and commercial endeavours,

00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 enabling companies to test their innovations right here on

00:09:25 --> 00:09:27 Earth before sending them to the moon.

00:09:27 --> 00:09:30 Anna: Absolutely, Avery. And speaking of

00:09:30 --> 00:09:33 testing things before they head to space, our

00:09:33 --> 00:09:35 next story deals with how we're regulating those very

00:09:35 --> 00:09:37 launches here on Earth.

00:09:37 --> 00:09:40 There's been some significant news regarding changes to the

00:09:40 --> 00:09:43 rules governing commercial rocket launches.

00:09:43 --> 00:09:46 Avery: Yes, it's a topic that's often debated in the space

00:09:46 --> 00:09:49 industry. The balance between fostering rapid

00:09:49 --> 00:09:52 innovation and ensuring safety and

00:09:52 --> 00:09:54 environmental protection. President Donald Trump

00:09:54 --> 00:09:57 recently signed an executive order. That's stirring up a lot of

00:09:57 --> 00:09:59 discussion about exactly that.

00:10:00 --> 00:10:02 Anna: That's right. On Wednesday, President

00:10:02 --> 00:10:05 Trump signed an executive order directing government

00:10:05 --> 00:10:08 agencies to eliminate or

00:10:08 --> 00:10:11 expedite environmental reviews for commercial

00:10:11 --> 00:10:14 launch and re entry licences. The

00:10:14 --> 00:10:16 Federal Aviation Administration, or

00:10:16 --> 00:10:19 faa, which is part of the Department of

00:10:19 --> 00:10:22 Transportation, is the primary agency that grants

00:10:22 --> 00:10:23 these licences.

00:10:23 --> 00:10:26 Avery: So the goal is to reduce what's often referred to as red

00:10:26 --> 00:10:28 tape for companies in the commercial space sector.

00:10:29 --> 00:10:31 Anna: Precisely. This push for deregulation

00:10:31 --> 00:10:34 is expected to be particularly welcomed by

00:10:34 --> 00:10:37 companies like SpaceX, which conducts the

00:10:37 --> 00:10:40 vast majority of commercial launches and re

00:10:40 --> 00:10:43 entries licenced by the faa. The

00:10:43 --> 00:10:46 order specifically directs Transportation Secretary

00:10:46 --> 00:10:48 Sean Duffy, who's also the acting

00:10:48 --> 00:10:51 Administrator of NASA, to use all

00:10:51 --> 00:10:53 available authorities to fast track these

00:10:53 --> 00:10:54 environmental review.

00:10:55 --> 00:10:58 Avery: And it's not just about environmental reviews, is it? I recall there

00:10:58 --> 00:11:01 were also regulations that the industry found

00:11:01 --> 00:11:02 burdensome.

00:11:02 --> 00:11:05 Anna: You're spot on. The executive order also

00:11:05 --> 00:11:07 includes a clause directing defy to re

00:11:07 --> 00:11:10 evaluate, amend or even rescind

00:11:10 --> 00:11:13 a set of launch safety regulations known as

00:11:13 --> 00:11:16 Part 450. These rules were actually

00:11:16 --> 00:11:19 written during the first Trump administration and went

00:11:19 --> 00:11:22 into effect in 2021. But space

00:11:22 --> 00:11:24 companies have since complained they are too

00:11:24 --> 00:11:27 cumbersome and have actually slowed down the

00:11:27 --> 00:11:28 licence approval process.

00:11:29 --> 00:11:32 Avery: So a past attempt at streamlining ironically

00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 created new hurdles. What else does the order aim to

00:11:35 --> 00:11:35 achieve?

00:11:35 --> 00:11:38 Anna: It goes further. Trump ordered NASA,

00:11:38 --> 00:11:41 the military and the Department of Transportation

00:11:41 --> 00:11:44 to eliminate duplicative reviews for spaceport

00:11:44 --> 00:11:47 development, especially at federally owned

00:11:47 --> 00:11:50 launch ranges like Cape Canaveral in Florida or

00:11:50 --> 00:11:52 or Vandenberg Space Force Base in California.

00:11:53 --> 00:11:56 The administration also plans to make the head of

00:11:56 --> 00:11:59 the FAA's Office of Commercial Space Transportation

00:11:59 --> 00:12:02 a political appointee rather than a career

00:12:02 --> 00:12:05 civil servant, and elevate the Office of Space

00:12:05 --> 00:12:06 Commerce.

00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 Avery: It sounds like a comprehensive effort to reshape the

00:12:09 --> 00:12:12 regulatory landscape for commercial spaceflight.

00:12:12 --> 00:12:15 What's the stated policy goal behind all these changes?

00:12:15 --> 00:12:18 Anna: The Executive Order clearly states it

00:12:18 --> 00:12:21 is the policy of the United States to enhance

00:12:21 --> 00:12:23 American greatness in space by

00:12:23 --> 00:12:26 enabling a, uh, competitive launch marketplace

00:12:26 --> 00:12:29 and substantially increasing commercial space

00:12:29 --> 00:12:31 launch cadence and novel space

00:12:31 --> 00:12:33 activities by 2030.

00:12:34 --> 00:12:36 Essentially, they want to streamline approvals to

00:12:36 --> 00:12:39 boost the US based operators. However,

00:12:40 --> 00:12:42 as with any significant policy change,

00:12:42 --> 00:12:45 there's always a flip side and concerns raised.

00:12:46 --> 00:12:48 What have environmental groups said about this order?

00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 Avery: There's been significant criticism. Jared

00:12:51 --> 00:12:54 Margolis, a senior attorney for the Centre for

00:12:54 --> 00:12:56 Biological Diversity, voiced strong

00:12:56 --> 00:12:59 opposition, stating that this reckless order

00:12:59 --> 00:13:02 puts people and wildlife at risk from private

00:13:02 --> 00:13:05 companies launching giant rockets that often

00:13:05 --> 00:13:08 explode and wreak devastation on surrounding areas.

00:13:08 --> 00:13:11 He added that bending the knee to powerful

00:13:11 --> 00:13:14 corporations by allowing federal agencies to ignore

00:13:14 --> 00:13:17 bedrock environmental laws is incredibly

00:13:17 --> 00:13:19 dangerous and puts all of us in harm's way.

00:13:20 --> 00:13:23 Anna: So the concern is that expediting these reviews might

00:13:23 --> 00:13:26 compromise environmental safeguards and public

00:13:26 --> 00:13:29 safety. Exactly. The changes

00:13:29 --> 00:13:32 to the environmental review process, particularly

00:13:32 --> 00:13:34 regarding the National Environmental Policy act

00:13:35 --> 00:13:37 or nepa, are considered the most

00:13:37 --> 00:13:40 controversial part of the order. NEPA

00:13:40 --> 00:13:43 requires federal agencies to evaluate the

00:13:43 --> 00:13:46 environmental effects of their actions. The the White House

00:13:46 --> 00:13:49 has directed the Transportation Department to

00:13:49 --> 00:13:51 identify activities not subject to

00:13:51 --> 00:13:54 NEPA and establish exclusions for

00:13:54 --> 00:13:56 launch and re entry licences.

00:13:57 --> 00:14:00 Avery: On the other hand, those in favour argue that

00:14:00 --> 00:14:02 these changes are vital for the growth and

00:14:02 --> 00:14:04 competitiveness of the US space industry.

00:14:05 --> 00:14:07 Anna: That's the perspective from Secretary Duffy,

00:14:07 --> 00:14:10 who argued the order is important to sustain

00:14:10 --> 00:14:13 economic growth. He said, by slashing

00:14:13 --> 00:14:16 red tape, tying up spaceport construction,

00:14:16 --> 00:14:19 streamlining launch licences so they can occur at

00:14:19 --> 00:14:22 scale and creating high level space positions

00:14:22 --> 00:14:25 in governments, we can unleash the next wave of

00:14:25 --> 00:14:27 innovation. Lara Forsyk, founder of

00:14:27 --> 00:14:30 the space consulting firm Astrolytical,

00:14:30 --> 00:14:33 also noted that while the Biden Administration knew

00:14:33 --> 00:14:36 reforms were needed for commercial launch regulations,

00:14:36 --> 00:14:39 little was done and she hopes this executive order

00:14:39 --> 00:14:41 will spur more action.

00:14:42 --> 00:14:43 Avery: And what about the industry itself?

00:14:44 --> 00:14:46 Anna: Dave Cavosa, president of the Commercial Space

00:14:46 --> 00:14:49 Flight Federation, applauded the move, stating that

00:14:49 --> 00:14:52 it will strengthen and grow the US commercial space

00:14:52 --> 00:14:55 industry by cutting red tape while maintaining a

00:14:55 --> 00:14:58 commitment to public safety. It's interesting to note

00:14:58 --> 00:15:01 that while the NEPA aspect is controversial, the

00:15:01 --> 00:15:04 attempt to reform or rescind the Part 450

00:15:04 --> 00:15:07 launch and re entry regulations actually appears to

00:15:07 --> 00:15:09 have bipartisan support in Congress.

00:15:10 --> 00:15:12 Avery: So there's a recognised need for regulatory

00:15:12 --> 00:15:15 efficiency, but the specific approach,

00:15:15 --> 00:15:18 especially concerning environmental oversight, is

00:15:18 --> 00:15:20 where the disagreement lies.

00:15:20 --> 00:15:23 Anna: Yes, and the order even seeks to limit the

00:15:23 --> 00:15:26 authority of state officials in enforcing their

00:15:26 --> 00:15:29 own environmental rules related to spaceport

00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 construction or operation. This is

00:15:31 --> 00:15:34 especially relevant after the California Coastal

00:15:34 --> 00:15:37 Commission recently rejected a proposal by

00:15:37 --> 00:15:40 SpaceX to double its launch cadence at

00:15:40 --> 00:15:41 Vandenberg's Space for Space.

00:15:42 --> 00:15:45 Avery: This really highlights the complex interplay between

00:15:45 --> 00:15:48 federal policy, state regulations, and the

00:15:48 --> 00:15:51 rapidly advancing private space industry. It's

00:15:51 --> 00:15:54 clear that finding the right balance will be an ongoing challenge.

00:15:54 --> 00:15:56 Anna: It definitely is, Avery.

00:15:56 --> 00:15:59 And moving from the complexities of earthbound

00:15:59 --> 00:16:02 regulations to the truly cosmic,

00:16:02 --> 00:16:05 our next story takes us billions of light years

00:16:05 --> 00:16:08 away to witness something incredible. The a

00:16:08 --> 00:16:11 supermassive black hole caught in the very act

00:16:11 --> 00:16:12 of switching on.

00:16:12 --> 00:16:15 Avery: That sounds absolutely fascinating, Anna. Uh, a black

00:16:15 --> 00:16:18 hole waking up. That's quite an image. Tell

00:16:18 --> 00:16:20 us more about this cosmic alarm clock.

00:16:20 --> 00:16:23 Anna: This discovery centres on a galaxy cluster

00:16:23 --> 00:16:26 called Chips 1911,

00:16:27 --> 00:16:30 uh, 4455, located an

00:16:30 --> 00:16:33 incredible 6 billion light years from Earth.

00:16:33 --> 00:16:36 At its heart lies a supermassive black

00:16:36 --> 00:16:39 hole that has only recently turned on,

00:16:39 --> 00:16:42 roughly a thousand years ago. While that

00:16:42 --> 00:16:45 might sound like a long time to us, in

00:16:45 --> 00:16:48 astronomical terms, it's truly just a blink of

00:16:48 --> 00:16:51 an eye. Lead researcher

00:16:51 --> 00:16:53 Francesco Ubertosi from the University

00:16:54 --> 00:16:56 of Bologna described it as like

00:16:56 --> 00:16:59 watching a sleeping giant wake up.

00:17:00 --> 00:17:02 The team used an array of powerful telescopes,

00:17:03 --> 00:17:05 including the Very Long Baseline

00:17:05 --> 00:17:08 Array and Very Large Array, to

00:17:08 --> 00:17:11 peer deep into space with remarkable

00:17:11 --> 00:17:14 precision. Imagine being able to read a

00:17:14 --> 00:17:17 newspaper in Los Angeles while standing

00:17:17 --> 00:17:20 in New York. That's the kind of detail they

00:17:20 --> 00:17:20 achieved.

00:17:21 --> 00:17:24 Avery: That's an astonishing level of detail. So what

00:17:24 --> 00:17:26 makes this newly awakened black hole so special

00:17:27 --> 00:17:28 compared to others?

00:17:28 --> 00:17:31 Anna: What's unique is that it's essentially a

00:17:31 --> 00:17:34 newborn in terms of its activity. The

00:17:34 --> 00:17:36 jets of material it's shooting out extend

00:17:36 --> 00:17:39 only about a hundred light years from its centre.

00:17:39 --> 00:17:42 While that sounds like enormous, it's actually

00:17:42 --> 00:17:45 tiny by black hole standards. Mature

00:17:45 --> 00:17:48 black holes in similar systems can create

00:17:48 --> 00:17:51 jets stretching for tens of thousands of light

00:17:51 --> 00:17:53 years. Most black holes astronomers

00:17:53 --> 00:17:56 study have been active for millions of years,

00:17:57 --> 00:18:00 which makes it very difficult to understand how they

00:18:00 --> 00:18:02 first begin to influence their surroundings.

00:18:02 --> 00:18:05 This newly awakened black hole provides a

00:18:05 --> 00:18:08 unique before picture, showing

00:18:08 --> 00:18:10 scientists what happens in the earliest stages

00:18:11 --> 00:18:12 of black hole activity.

00:18:13 --> 00:18:16 Avery: So it's like a cosmic laboratory, allowing them to

00:18:16 --> 00:18:19 study the very first moments of a black hole's influence.

00:18:19 --> 00:18:22 Anna: Precisely. Co author Mariam

00:18:22 --> 00:18:25 Giddey from the University of Bologna

00:18:25 --> 00:18:28 noted that the jets are so young and

00:18:28 --> 00:18:31 small that they haven't had time to push away

00:18:31 --> 00:18:33 the surrounding hot gas. This creates a

00:18:33 --> 00:18:36 perfect natural laboratory for studying

00:18:36 --> 00:18:39 how black holes first begin to influence

00:18:39 --> 00:18:42 their cosmic neighbourhood. And here's

00:18:42 --> 00:18:45 another intriguing detail. While the black hole

00:18:45 --> 00:18:47 itself is just waking up. The

00:18:47 --> 00:18:50 galaxy around it is anything but

00:18:50 --> 00:18:53 sleepy. This galaxy is creating new

00:18:53 --> 00:18:55 stars at an astounding rate. Between

00:18:56 --> 00:18:59 140 and 190 times

00:18:59 --> 00:19:01 the mass of our sun every single year.

00:19:02 --> 00:19:05 Avery: That's an incredible rate. For perspective, our

00:19:05 --> 00:19:08 entire Milky Way galaxy only forms about one

00:19:08 --> 00:19:09 sun's worth of stars annually.

00:19:10 --> 00:19:13 Anna: Exactly. The researchers believe they

00:19:13 --> 00:19:16 may actually be witnessing this smoking gun

00:19:16 --> 00:19:19 of how black holes get triggered in the first

00:19:19 --> 00:19:22 place. The hot gas surrounding this black hole

00:19:22 --> 00:19:24 is cooling very efficiently, which

00:19:24 --> 00:19:27 potentially provides the fuel needed to

00:19:27 --> 00:19:28 wake up the black hole.

00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 Avery: That makes sense. It's like pouring fuel onto a

00:19:31 --> 00:19:34 fire. So understanding how supermassive

00:19:34 --> 00:19:37 black holes wake up must have significant implications

00:19:37 --> 00:19:39 for our understanding of the universe.

00:19:40 --> 00:19:43 Anna: Absolutely. Understanding how they wake

00:19:43 --> 00:19:45 up helps solve fundamental questions about

00:19:45 --> 00:19:48 how galaxies evolve. These black

00:19:48 --> 00:19:51 holes play a crucial role in regulating

00:19:51 --> 00:19:54 star formation and shaping the largest

00:19:54 --> 00:19:56 structures in the universe. By catching

00:19:56 --> 00:19:59 one in the act of awakening, it's

00:19:59 --> 00:20:01 possible to finally study this process

00:20:02 --> 00:20:05 as it unfolds, rather than just seeing the

00:20:05 --> 00:20:05 end result.

00:20:06 --> 00:20:09 Avery: And, um, I imagine this kind of discovery requires

00:20:09 --> 00:20:10 combining data from multiple sources.

00:20:11 --> 00:20:14 Anna: It did. The discovery required combining

00:20:14 --> 00:20:17 observations from multiple telescopes,

00:20:17 --> 00:20:20 each providing different pieces of the puzzle.

00:20:20 --> 00:20:23 Some offered ultra high resolution to see

00:20:23 --> 00:20:26 the tiny jets, while others provided the

00:20:26 --> 00:20:28 sensitivity needed to detect faint

00:20:28 --> 00:20:31 signals from star formation. As the

00:20:31 --> 00:20:34 research team continues, they hope to watch

00:20:34 --> 00:20:37 how this black hole evolves over time and

00:20:37 --> 00:20:40 find more similar systems. This could

00:20:40 --> 00:20:43 truly revolutionise our understanding of

00:20:43 --> 00:20:45 how the universe's most powerful

00:20:45 --> 00:20:48 objects first begin to shape the cosmos

00:20:48 --> 00:20:49 around them.

00:20:49 --> 00:20:52 Avery: What an incredible journey we've had today. From the

00:20:52 --> 00:20:55 intriguing, yet ultimately not earth, like

00:20:55 --> 00:20:57 Trappist1d to the innovative Lunar

00:20:57 --> 00:20:59 Surface Simulator here on Earth.

00:20:59 --> 00:21:02 Anna: And let's not forget the important discussion about

00:21:02 --> 00:21:05 commercial space regulations and the

00:21:05 --> 00:21:08 truly groundbreaking discovery of a black hole

00:21:08 --> 00:21:11 caught in the act of awakening. It's been a

00:21:11 --> 00:21:13 packed episode of Cosmic Insights.

00:21:13 --> 00:21:16 Avery: It certainly has, Anna. Uh, we hope all our

00:21:16 --> 00:21:18 listeners enjoy today's exploration of the

00:21:18 --> 00:21:21 universe's latest news. Thank you for tuning in

00:21:21 --> 00:21:22 to Astronomy.

00:21:22 --> 00:21:25 Anna: Daily, and we look forward to bringing you

00:21:25 --> 00:21:27 more fascinating stories from across the

00:21:27 --> 00:21:30 cosmos very soon. Until next time,

00:21:30 --> 00:21:33 space explorers, keep looking up at our

00:21:33 --> 00:21:34 wonderful cosmos.