Asteroid Close Calls, Lunar Missions Debate, and the Fiery World of TOI 2431b
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Asteroid Close Calls, Lunar Missions Debate, and the Fiery World of TOI 2431b

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  • Asteroid 2025 OW's Close Encounter: Unpack the details of asteroid 2025 OW, a plane-sized space rock making headlines as it approaches Earth. While NASA assures us that this encounter is routine, we delve into the specifics of its size, speed, and trajectory, and what this means for our planet. Learn about the upcoming visibility of asteroid Apophis in 2029, which promises a thrilling viewing opportunity for skywatchers.
  • - The Moon: Human vs. Robotic Exploration: Engage in the ongoing debate about the merits of human lunar missions compared to robotic exploration. We explore the unique advantages humans bring to space exploration, from problem-solving capabilities to the potential for resource utilization on the Moon. Discover why investing in crewed missions could yield significant scientific and economic returns.
  • - The Extreme Exoplanet TOI 2431B: Meet TOI 2431B, a newly discovered exoplanet that challenges our understanding of planetary systems. Orbiting its star in just 5.4 hours, this Earth-sized world experiences extreme conditions, including molten surface temperatures. We discuss the implications of its rapid orbit and its potential for future study with the James Webb Telescope.
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  • Thank you for tuning in. This is Anna signing off. Until next time, keep looking up and stay curious about the wonders of our universe.
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 Anna: Welcome to Astronomy Daily, everyone. I'm

00:00:03 --> 00:00:03 Anna.

00:00:04 --> 00:00:06 Avery: And I'm Avery. We're thrilled to have you

00:00:06 --> 00:00:09 join us, for another dive into the cosmos.

00:00:09 --> 00:00:11 Bringing you the latest and most fascinating

00:00:11 --> 00:00:13 news from across the universe.

00:00:13 --> 00:00:15 Anna: Today on this show, we're going to demystify

00:00:16 --> 00:00:18 a plane sized asteroid making

00:00:18 --> 00:00:21 headlines with its upcoming close approach to

00:00:21 --> 00:00:24 Earth. NASA says it's pretty routine,

00:00:24 --> 00:00:26 but we'll get into why it's still worth

00:00:26 --> 00:00:26 talking about.

00:00:27 --> 00:00:30 Avery: Then we'll turn our attention closer to home

00:00:30 --> 00:00:32 and reignite an age old debate.

00:00:32 --> 00:00:35 Is it truly worth going back to the moon?

00:00:35 --> 00:00:38 We'll explore the compelling arguments for

00:00:38 --> 00:00:40 human lunar missions versus robotic

00:00:40 --> 00:00:41 exploration.

00:00:42 --> 00:00:44 Anna: And finally, prepare to be amazed as we

00:00:44 --> 00:00:46 introduce you to a newly discovered

00:00:46 --> 00:00:49 exoplanet that's pushing the boundaries of

00:00:49 --> 00:00:52 what we thought possible. With an incredibly

00:00:52 --> 00:00:54 short year and, and some truly

00:00:54 --> 00:00:55 extreme conditions.

00:00:56 --> 00:00:58 Avery: It's going to be an exciting episode, so

00:00:58 --> 00:00:59 let's jump right in.

00:01:00 --> 00:01:03 Anna: All right, first up, let's talk about that

00:01:03 --> 00:01:05 asteroid that's been buzzing through

00:01:05 --> 00:01:07 headlines, 2025 ow.

00:01:08 --> 00:01:10 It's being described as plane sized.

00:01:10 --> 00:01:13 And while that might sound a bit alarming to

00:01:13 --> 00:01:16 some, NASA experts are really keen on

00:01:16 --> 00:01:19 emphasizing that this encounter is far

00:01:19 --> 00:01:21 more routine than it is remarkable.

00:01:22 --> 00:01:24 Avery: That's right, Ena. This asteroid, named, uh,

00:01:24 --> 00:01:26 2025 ow measures about

00:01:26 --> 00:01:29 210ft in length. It's scheduled to

00:01:29 --> 00:01:32 pass Earth on July 28th at a distance of

00:01:32 --> 00:01:35 roughly 393 miles.

00:01:35 --> 00:01:38 To put that in perspective, that's about 1.6

00:01:38 --> 00:01:41 times the average distance to the Moon.

00:01:41 --> 00:01:44 Anna: And despite it zipping by at an impressive

00:01:44 --> 00:01:47 46 miles per

00:01:47 --> 00:01:50 hour near NASA, scientists are saying there's

00:01:50 --> 00:01:53 absolutely nothing to lose sleep over.

00:01:53 --> 00:01:55 Ian J. O', Neill, a, uh, media relations

00:01:55 --> 00:01:58 specialist at NASA's Jet Propulsion

00:01:58 --> 00:02:01 Laboratory, or JPL, put it quite

00:02:01 --> 00:02:03 simply, stating this is very routine.

00:02:04 --> 00:02:06 If there was a threat, you would hear from

00:02:06 --> 00:02:08 us, we would always put out alerts on our

00:02:08 --> 00:02:10 planetary defense blog.

00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 Avery: David Farnocchia, an asteroid expert at

00:02:13 --> 00:02:15 NASA's center for Near Earth Object Studies,

00:02:17 --> 00:02:20 echoed that sentiment, explaining that space

00:02:20 --> 00:02:22 rocks passing by Earth are just business as

00:02:22 --> 00:02:24 usual in our solar system. He even mentioned

00:02:24 --> 00:02:26 that his team typically tracks several

00:02:26 --> 00:02:28 asteroids passing Earth each week, with five

00:02:28 --> 00:02:31 on their radar for next week alone.

00:02:32 --> 00:02:34 Anna: So while 2025 OW is

00:02:34 --> 00:02:36 certainly large enough to be of interest to

00:02:36 --> 00:02:39 scientists, its orbit is incredibly

00:02:39 --> 00:02:42 well understood, meaning it poses no

00:02:42 --> 00:02:45 danger whatsoever. O' Neill confidently

00:02:45 --> 00:02:48 stated, we know exactly where it's going to

00:02:48 --> 00:02:50 be. We'll probably know where it's going to

00:02:50 --> 00:02:53 be for the next hundred years. So no need

00:02:53 --> 00:02:55 to dust off your asteroid bunker plants for

00:02:55 --> 00:02:56 this one.

00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 Avery: For those hoping to catch a glimpse,

00:02:58 --> 00:03:00 Sparnochia noted that 2025 OW

00:03:00 --> 00:03:03 won't be visible with binoculars. However, he

00:03:03 --> 00:03:06 did point to a much more exciting event on

00:03:06 --> 00:03:08 the horizon. The 2029 approach of asteroid

00:03:08 --> 00:03:11 Aphofus. This one is estimated to be about

00:03:11 --> 00:03:14 1ft in length

00:03:14 --> 00:03:17 and will come within an astonishing 38

00:03:17 --> 00:03:20 kilometers of earth in April 2029, which

00:03:20 --> 00:03:22 is actually closer than our geostationary

00:03:22 --> 00:03:23 satellites.

00:03:23 --> 00:03:26 Anna: And the best part, due to that exceptionally

00:03:26 --> 00:03:29 close approach, Apophis will actually be

00:03:29 --> 00:03:32 visible to the naked eye. That's going to be

00:03:32 --> 00:03:34 a rare and incredible opportunity for public

00:03:34 --> 00:03:37 observation of an asteroid. Both

00:03:37 --> 00:03:40 Farnochia and o' Neill also emphasized that

00:03:40 --> 00:03:42 that while Earth is struck by roughly 100

00:03:42 --> 00:03:45 tons of space material daily, most of it

00:03:45 --> 00:03:46 is harmless dust.

00:03:47 --> 00:03:50 Avery: Larger, more potentially hazardous impacts

00:03:50 --> 00:03:52 are extremely rare. For Nokia calculated

00:03:52 --> 00:03:55 that, uh, for an object the size of 2025 ow,

00:03:56 --> 00:03:58 while close approaches might happen yearly,

00:03:58 --> 00:04:01 an actual Earth impact would only occur

00:04:01 --> 00:04:04 roughly every 10 years. It's

00:04:04 --> 00:04:05 good to know NASA's planetary defense

00:04:05 --> 00:04:07 programs are keeping a close watch,

00:04:08 --> 00:04:09 maintaining public transparency, and

00:04:09 --> 00:04:12 reminding us that most asteroid headlines are

00:04:12 --> 00:04:14 more sensational than genuinely concerning.

00:04:15 --> 00:04:18 Anna: So from objects passing by Earth, let's

00:04:18 --> 00:04:20 pivot to something that's always been a hot

00:04:20 --> 00:04:22 topic in space exploration. Whether

00:04:22 --> 00:04:25 it's truly worth sending humans back to the

00:04:25 --> 00:04:28 Moon. It's true that crewed missions are

00:04:28 --> 00:04:30 notoriously expensive, difficult and

00:04:30 --> 00:04:31 dangerous.

00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 Avery: Absolutely, Anna. And we've got decades of

00:04:34 --> 00:04:37 reliable, dependable robotic exploration

00:04:37 --> 00:04:40 under our belts. Fantastic flybys, orbiters,

00:04:40 --> 00:04:43 landers, rovers. So the natural question,

00:04:44 --> 00:04:46 why don't we just take all the money human

00:04:46 --> 00:04:48 spaceflight would cost to return to the Moon

00:04:48 --> 00:04:51 and spend it on a ton of robots instead?

00:04:51 --> 00:04:54 Anna: That's a great point, and one often debated.

00:04:54 --> 00:04:56 But the answer surprisingly leans heavily

00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 towards the human element. No matter how

00:04:59 --> 00:05:02 capable our little robotic explorers are,

00:05:02 --> 00:05:04 they simply can't match what a human can do.

00:05:05 --> 00:05:07 Avery: Exactly. Compared to a robot, a human is

00:05:07 --> 00:05:10 stronger, at least stronger than the kinds of

00:05:10 --> 00:05:12 robots we can send to the moon. We can

00:05:12 --> 00:05:14 troubleshoot and solve problems much faster

00:05:14 --> 00:05:16 without constant guidance from Earth based

00:05:16 --> 00:05:19 engineers. We're also far more creative and

00:05:19 --> 00:05:21 flexible when it comes to scientific

00:05:21 --> 00:05:24 investigation. I mean, a typical rover

00:05:24 --> 00:05:27 speed is around 0.1 miles

00:05:27 --> 00:05:30 per hour, or a blazing 152

00:05:30 --> 00:05:32 meters per hour. Humans are just

00:05:33 --> 00:05:35 better in almost every aspect.

00:05:35 --> 00:05:37 Anna: For hands on work, it's truly astonishing.

00:05:38 --> 00:05:40 The typical benchmark is that what a robot

00:05:40 --> 00:05:43 can accomplish in an entire day, a human can

00:05:43 --> 00:05:45 often do In a minute. Of course, the

00:05:45 --> 00:05:48 downsides are significant. Sending humans is

00:05:48 --> 00:05:51 much more expensive and much riskier. No

00:05:51 --> 00:05:54 one sheds a tear when a robot crash lands on

00:05:54 --> 00:05:56 the surface. But a crewed mission is going to

00:05:56 --> 00:05:59 be at least 10 times more expensive than an

00:05:59 --> 00:06:00 equivalent robotic mission.

00:06:00 --> 00:06:02 Avery: And yet, while human missions are more

00:06:02 --> 00:06:04 expensive, their productivity totally

00:06:04 --> 00:06:07 eclipses that of robots. Look at the Apollo

00:06:07 --> 00:06:10 missions. A total of 12.5 contact

00:06:10 --> 00:06:13 days on the Moon resulted in nearly 3

00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 scientific papers. Compare that to the

00:06:15 --> 00:06:18 thousand or so papers written about Mars from

00:06:18 --> 00:06:21 years of rovers and landers on its surface.

00:06:21 --> 00:06:24 On a cost per science result basis, it

00:06:24 --> 00:06:26 seems we'd be foolish not to keep sending

00:06:26 --> 00:06:26 humans into space.

00:06:27 --> 00:06:29 Anna: And science isn't the only compelling reason.

00:06:30 --> 00:06:32 The Moon also holds a lot of easily

00:06:32 --> 00:06:34 accessible resources that could provide the

00:06:34 --> 00:06:37 basis for space based industry. We're talking

00:06:37 --> 00:06:40 about mining and manufacturing on the Moon.

00:06:40 --> 00:06:42 Utilizing rich deposits of methane,

00:06:42 --> 00:06:45 ammonia and atomic oxygen in the lunar

00:06:45 --> 00:06:46 regolith.

00:06:46 --> 00:06:48 Avery: This is where it gets really exciting for

00:06:48 --> 00:06:50 future expansion. These operations could

00:06:50 --> 00:06:53 funnel back either manufactured or refined

00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 materials to Earth, or become the backbone of

00:06:56 --> 00:06:58 further off world industry. As a steady

00:06:58 --> 00:07:01 supply of water and fuel, the Moon has a much

00:07:01 --> 00:07:03 shallower gravitational well than Earth,

00:07:03 --> 00:07:05 meaning it's significantly easier to come and

00:07:05 --> 00:07:08 go from its surface. You could literally

00:07:08 --> 00:07:10 build advanced rocket parts or habitats there

00:07:10 --> 00:07:13 and get them out to Mars or the asteroid

00:07:13 --> 00:07:15 belt. Far, far easier than doing the same

00:07:15 --> 00:07:16 thing from Earth.

00:07:16 --> 00:07:19 Anna: While we can fantasize about fully automated

00:07:19 --> 00:07:21 factories or mining operations on the lunar

00:07:21 --> 00:07:24 surface, the truth is we don't have nearly

00:07:24 --> 00:07:27 the experience or expertise develop those

00:07:27 --> 00:07:29 kinds of systems outside of Earth. Yet lunar

00:07:29 --> 00:07:32 manufacturing and mining are still a long way

00:07:32 --> 00:07:34 off. We have to figure out how mining and

00:07:34 --> 00:07:37 machining can operate in low gravity. How to

00:07:37 --> 00:07:40 deal with all that super fine lunar dust,

00:07:40 --> 00:07:43 how to haul all that mining gear there, and

00:07:43 --> 00:07:45 where the good stuff is on the Moon in the

00:07:45 --> 00:07:45 first place.

00:07:45 --> 00:07:48 Avery: And to kickstart that entire process, we're

00:07:48 --> 00:07:50 going to need a lot of humans doing a lot of

00:07:50 --> 00:07:53 grunt work. And lastly, and perhaps

00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 most fundamentally, it's just plain fun.

00:07:56 --> 00:07:59 Humans are natural explorers. We've always

00:07:59 --> 00:08:02 expanded into every habitable biome of Earth,

00:08:02 --> 00:08:04 making our way across ice bridges and over

00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 the horizons of endless seas to find new

00:08:06 --> 00:08:09 homes. It's truly in our nature to explore

00:08:09 --> 00:08:10 and expand.

00:08:10 --> 00:08:13 Anna: The Moon is right there, waiting for us.

00:08:13 --> 00:08:15 For millennia, we thought it was just a

00:08:15 --> 00:08:18 mysterious part of the heavens. Now we

00:08:18 --> 00:08:20 understand that it's a world in its own

00:08:20 --> 00:08:22 right. A place to plant our flags and build

00:08:22 --> 00:08:25 our homes. A place where a branch of humanity

00:08:25 --> 00:08:28 could potentially Create new communities, and

00:08:28 --> 00:08:28 there.

00:08:28 --> 00:08:30 Avery: Will always be a segment of the population

00:08:30 --> 00:08:32 that simply wants to go to the moon for the

00:08:32 --> 00:08:34 adventure of it and the desire for a new

00:08:34 --> 00:08:37 life. It's not crazy to imagine

00:08:37 --> 00:08:39 humanity building cities and homesteads on

00:08:39 --> 00:08:42 the lunar surface. It may take a very long

00:08:42 --> 00:08:44 time, but it's not impossible. If those

00:08:44 --> 00:08:46 people are private individuals spending their

00:08:46 --> 00:08:48 own money, then good for them. If it's

00:08:48 --> 00:08:51 publicly funded institutions like NASA

00:08:51 --> 00:08:53 footing the bill, let's keep in mind that the

00:08:53 --> 00:08:55 entire space program of the United States

00:08:55 --> 00:08:58 takes up less than 1% of the total

00:08:58 --> 00:09:00 federal budget. We're barely spending any

00:09:00 --> 00:09:02 money on it at all, relatively speaking.

00:09:03 --> 00:09:06 Anna: From our own moon to asteroids zooming

00:09:06 --> 00:09:09 past Earth, let's cast our gaze even

00:09:09 --> 00:09:12 further out to a, uh, truly fascinating

00:09:12 --> 00:09:14 new world that's challenging our

00:09:14 --> 00:09:16 understanding of planetary systems. And

00:09:16 --> 00:09:19 astronomers have just discovered an exoplanet

00:09:19 --> 00:09:20 named TOI

00:09:20 --> 00:09:23 2431B.

00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 Avery: This discovery was made by an international

00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 team of researchers using NASA's

00:09:28 --> 00:09:30 Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite, or

00:09:30 --> 00:09:33 TESS. TOI 2431B is

00:09:33 --> 00:09:36 an Earth sized planet orbiting a nearby star

00:09:36 --> 00:09:39 just 117 light years away.

00:09:39 --> 00:09:41 But what makes this planet extraordinary

00:09:41 --> 00:09:44 isn't just its size. It's it's how incredibly

00:09:44 --> 00:09:46 fast it races around its star.

00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 Anna: You're not kidding, Avery.

00:09:48 --> 00:09:51 TOI2431B completes

00:09:51 --> 00:09:53 a full orbit around its host star in just

00:09:53 --> 00:09:56 5.4 hours. That makes it one

00:09:56 --> 00:09:59 of the shortest years ever recorded for

00:09:59 --> 00:10:01 any known planet. To put that into

00:10:01 --> 00:10:03 perspective, While Earth takes

00:10:03 --> 00:10:06 365 days to orbit the sun, this

00:10:06 --> 00:10:09 distant world experiences more than 1600

00:10:10 --> 00:10:12 years in the same timeframe. It's sitting

00:10:12 --> 00:10:15 extremely close to its star, only about

00:10:15 --> 00:10:18 933 kilometers away.

00:10:18 --> 00:10:21 Avery: And that proximity comes with extreme

00:10:21 --> 00:10:23 consequences. The planet's surface

00:10:23 --> 00:10:26 temperature reaches approximately 2

00:10:26 --> 00:10:27 Kelvin, which is about

00:10:27 --> 00:10:30 1727 degrees Celsius.

00:10:31 --> 00:10:33 That's hot enough to melt most rocks and

00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 metals. Scientists believe the planet's

00:10:35 --> 00:10:37 surface is likely molten, creating a

00:10:37 --> 00:10:40 landscape of liquid rock and metal. Imagine

00:10:40 --> 00:10:40 that.

00:10:41 --> 00:10:44 Anna: Despite being classified as earth sized,

00:10:44 --> 00:10:47 TOI 2431B is

00:10:47 --> 00:10:49 quite different from our home planet. With a

00:10:49 --> 00:10:52 radius about 1.53 times

00:10:52 --> 00:10:54 larger than Earth and a, uh, mass

00:10:54 --> 00:10:57 6.2 times greater, this world is

00:10:57 --> 00:11:00 significantly denser than Earth. Its

00:11:00 --> 00:11:03 density of 9.4 grams per cubic

00:11:03 --> 00:11:06 centimeter suggests it's made of much heavier

00:11:06 --> 00:11:09 materials, possibly containing a large iron

00:11:09 --> 00:11:10 core or other dense metals.

00:11:11 --> 00:11:13 Avery: And the intense gravitational forces from its

00:11:13 --> 00:11:16 nearby star have likely changed the planet's

00:11:16 --> 00:11:18 shape. The team estimates that TOI

00:11:18 --> 00:11:21 2431B is tidally deformed,

00:11:21 --> 00:11:24 with its shortest axis being about 9%

00:11:24 --> 00:11:27 shorter than its longest axis. This gives

00:11:27 --> 00:11:29 it a somewhat flattened appearance rather

00:11:29 --> 00:11:31 than a perfect sphere like Earth, but even

00:11:31 --> 00:11:32 more extreme.

00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 Anna: Perhaps most intriguingly, this

00:11:35 --> 00:11:37 planet won't be around forever. The

00:11:37 --> 00:11:39 Researchers calculated that TOI

00:11:39 --> 00:11:42 2431B has a tidal decay

00:11:42 --> 00:11:44 timescale of about 30 million years.

00:11:44 --> 00:11:47 This is the shortest known among similar

00:11:47 --> 00:11:49 ultra short period planets. It means the

00:11:49 --> 00:11:52 planet is gradually spiraling into its star

00:11:52 --> 00:11:55 and will eventually be consumed, though its

00:11:55 --> 00:11:57 demise won't happen for many millions of

00:11:57 --> 00:11:58 years.

00:11:58 --> 00:12:01 Avery: The discovery team led by Kayahan Tosh

00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 confirmed the planet using multiple

00:12:03 --> 00:12:05 observation methods, including TESS data,

00:12:05 --> 00:12:07 ground based telescopes, and specialized

00:12:07 --> 00:12:10 spectrographs. Scientists have noted that TOI

00:12:10 --> 00:12:13 2431B would be an excellent target for the

00:12:13 --> 00:12:15 James Webb Telescope to study further,

00:12:15 --> 00:12:17 potentially revealing details about its

00:12:17 --> 00:12:19 surface composition and whether it retains

00:12:19 --> 00:12:21 any atmosphere despite the extreme

00:12:21 --> 00:12:23 conditions. It really adds to our growing

00:12:23 --> 00:12:25 catalog of extreme worlds.

00:12:25 --> 00:12:28 Anna: What an episode. Avery from

00:12:28 --> 00:12:31 routine asteroid flybys and the excitement of

00:12:31 --> 00:12:34 Apophis in 2029 to the compelling

00:12:34 --> 00:12:36 arguments for human missions back to the in

00:12:36 --> 00:12:39 the truly wild discovery of TOI

00:12:39 --> 00:12:42 2431B with its 5.4 hour

00:12:42 --> 00:12:44 year and molten surface, it's been a

00:12:44 --> 00:12:47 journey through some incredible celestial

00:12:47 --> 00:12:48 events and discoveries.

00:12:48 --> 00:12:51 Avery: It really has. Ana Our universe continues to

00:12:51 --> 00:12:54 amaze us every day. And that wraps up another

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